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Mark's avatar

I believe Fra Alexis Bugnolo strikes exactly the right note. He faults the 1968 rites as deficient in quantity and quality of graces bestowed within broadly valid sacraments:

https://www.fromrome.info/2023/02/11/why-voris-gets-it-wrong/

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White Wolf's avatar

I really do not Fra Alexis Bugnolo as a credible source. The man is somewhat of a clown, like Archbishop Vigano. Meanwhile, he talks about all the variations in, for example, the rite of episcopal consecration without going into the history of all the deviations. Moreover, he is tossing around the word "Sedevacanist" just like the SSPX, trying to associate it with a certain mentality. Moreover, there are not 23 rites in the church, just 12, all originating with one of the Apostles, of which just four are now extant: that of St John, from which derives the Eastern Rite, that of St James, from which derives the Gallican and Ambrosian Rites, that of St Andrew, from which derives the Coptic, Mozarabic, and Chaldean Rites, and of course that of St Peter, which is the Roman Rite. As for the Eastern Rites, we cannot have complete confidence of their Apostolic veracity, Pius XII notwithstanding, because they have been in schism for a millennium and do not enjoy the protection of the Holy Ghost. Meanwhile, with his specious terminology and lack of metaphysical (Thomistic) clarity, Brother Bugnolo demonstrates he really does not know what he is talking about.

The validity of a sacrament does not happen within broad guidelines nor because of the intention of the minister. It happens because the minister intends to do what the Church does with a moral certainty. That is why the Church has always insisted that in the vast majority of cases Protestants be conditionally baptized, so that the other sacraments can be applied with moral certainty, as Protestants are NOT protected in their "ministry" by the Holy Ghost.

Someday soon, a lot of Catholics are going stop whistling past the proverbial graveyard, and a true and holy pope will have the chutzpah to speak the simple truth in plain language.

In the Holy Hearts of Jesus and Mary.

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From Grok2

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The Roman Catholic Church does not frequently alter the Catechism of the Catholic Church. However, alterations can and do occur under specific circumstances, primarily when there is a significant development or clarification in Church doctrine or teaching. Here are some key points based on available information:

- **Major Revisions**: The Catechism has seen two major editions. The first was published in 1992 under Pope John Paul II, and a second edition was published in 1997 with corrections to align the English text with the official Latin version.

- **Significant Changes**: Notable changes include:

- **1997 Corrections**: These were primarily to harmonize the English translation with the Latin text. The changes were minor and involved corrections rather than doctrinal alterations.

- **2018 Update on Death Penalty**: In 2018, Pope Francis approved a change to paragraph 2267 of the Catechism, stating that "the death penalty is inadmissible because it is an attack on the inviolability and dignity of the person." This was a significant doctrinal shift and was widely noted in various sources including posts on X.

- **Process of Change**: Changes to the Catechism typically involve:

- Papal approval after consultation with various Church bodies like the Synod of Bishops or the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

- A response to significant theological, moral, or pastoral developments within the Church.

- **Frequency**: Given the nature of these changes, alterations are not routine. They occur when there's a need to clarify or adapt teaching in light of contemporary issues or deeper theological understanding. The rarity of these changes underscores their significance when they do occur.

Thus, while the Catechism is not altered on a regular basis, when changes are made, they are deliberate, reflecting a development in Church doctrine or a response to new insights or societal challenges.

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So are we speaking of changes in doctrine or changes in pastoral practices?

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White Wolf's avatar

The One, Holy Catholic and Apostolic cannot alter the catechism, as it is grounded in eternity. While there are temporal aspects of the church that do change, such as who is pope, the details of the design of churches, and the list of the Communion of Saints, the Deposit of the Faith, "Once for all delivered to the Saints" cannot change.

The 2018 "Update of the Death Penalty" is poppycock. God Himself, in Leviticus, Deuteronomy, and Numbers, gives Capital Punishment as the penalty for numerous violations of the moral code.

If Pope Frantic is really concerned about the " inviolability and dignity" of persons, he might want to review, for example, his 2023 promulgation of "Fiducia Supplicans".

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