19:12 "Bishop Williamson's 'Holocaust Denial' Nonsense." I am finding this discussion somewhat interesting. (Oh, and for the record, Bishop Williamson just might be a pervert, but that is a topic for another day.) I was involved with the SSPX for years, and at this point they can be best described as a "honeypot" for Catholics awakening to the Abomination that the "Novus Ordo Mass" is. We have almost arrived at the reign of the Antichrist, and we must be careful, for the deception has many layers. For starters, consider that the True Church has FOUR marks- It is One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic. The "Church" of Pope Frantic has NONE of those marks. My issue is not Sedevacantism. I don't give a hoot whether one thinks Francis is the Pope or not. We should be able to agree, at the very least, that that man is highly problematic. And while the Novus Ordo mist certainly seems to be the "Abomination of Desolation" spoken by Daniel and referenced by Our Lord Jesus Christ, I do not presume to judge ignorant souls who still attend it, any more than I will judge Protestants or Jews. Sometimes ignorance is bliss... But Truth is truth, even if nobody believes it. So, circling back, Bishop Williamson was over the target when he said nobody was gassed at Auschwitz. Fred Luechter, execution forensics expert, completely agrees with him. Those who still wish to adhere to "official narratives" have a LOT of research to do. Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us. You are our only hope!
24:53 At my onset with my become associated with the SSPX, I was greatly overjoyed because at an Ignatian Retreat in 1991, the prior, Fr Lafyette, had criticized the Archbishop for ordaining Fr Clarence Kelly over the objections of Fr Barielle, who was a much better discerner of persons. I had been affiliated with what I was truly convinced was a cult in Canada, where utterly no criticism of the founder, Katherine De Hueck Dougherty, was allowed. That was one of the reasons for my affilliation with the SSPX. It was very refreshing. All through the 1990s there were profound changes in the SSPX. And yes, while Archbishop Lefebvre constantly insisted he was not establishing a parallel magisterium, that began to change, especially under the administration of Bishop Fellay. And I always felt the SSPX had no business conducting marriage tribunals or attempting exorcisms, for example. They had to realize their "supplied jurisdiction" was of a very limited and emergency nature. The tendency of all Traditional groups is to minimalize the present apostasy and want to "turn back the clock" to the Pontificate of the Freemasonic Pius XII, as though that were the epitome of Christendom. Traditional Catholics want their "Parishes" to be clones of 1950s America. Big mistake.
26:38 The idea that the SSPX had a "monopoly on the truth" was utterly foreign to the organization I joined in 1991. I sat through several sermons where the priest warned us not to "pat ourselves on the back" because we attended Latin Mass. The Traditional Church was what had the "monopoly on the Truth" and we could lose our adherence to Tradition at any time, due to sin.
29:55 You are touching upon a very important point, which is really the touchstone of all arguments concerning the SSPX, and that is the reality of what the Traditional Church calls an "Apostolic Mandate". In my opinion, Archbishop Lefebvre received such an Apostolic Mandate from Holy Mother Church. Meanwhile, Holy Mother Church, in Quo Primum- which was never obrogated, abrogated, or derogated from by Paul VI- specifically forbids any penalties against any cleric for adhering to the Tridentine Missal. So, legally and canonically, all the sanctions against Archbishop Lefebvre- and any Traditional priest, for that matter- were null and void. (Moreover, Pope JP2 never personally and authoritatively sanctioned the archbishop- he merely quoted canon law.) The legalistic and positivistic undulations concerning the Canonical Status of the SSPX have been deliberately calculated- by both sides- to cause maximum confusion, and the utter refusal for clear statements regarding the status of the "Latin Mass" from bishops and cardinals is deliberate, designed to cause confusion. They all know the "Latin Mass" is the Rite of St Peter, of Apostolic origin, and cannot be legally made void. And so they drown everything in rivers of confusion, to paraphrase the Apocalypse. But soon, very soon, you will have the religion of the Antichrist, of which the Freemasonic "New Mass: is the core. (For clear thinking, I recommend "The Great Sacrilege" by Fr James Wathen.)
31:04 For the record Archbishop Lefebvre was never "excommunicated" from the Catholic Church. In the moto proprio Ecclesia Dei, the relevant words are "In itself, this act was one of disobedience to the Roman Pontiff in a very grave matter... such disobedience - which IMPLIES in practice the rejection of the Roman primacy - constitutes a schismatic act. Mon Lefebvre (has) incurred the grave penalty of excommunication envisaged by ecclesiastical law..." The Parish of St Michael's in Scranton provides the perfect illustration for a comparison. The Parish is at the intersection of Jackson and Filbert Streets, which has a four way stop. Just up the block is the fire department. The fire chief looks out, sees the church on fire, scrambles his men and engines, and hurries to put the fire out. In doing so, he runs right through the stop sign. A motorcycle cop rushes up to him and says: "I am citing you for running a stop sign and writing a ticket." Technically, the fire chief is guilty of the infraction. But everybody knows that with fire, seconds can make all the difference, and, at any rate, since the other party has to stop anyhow, nobody was placed in any danger. So any competent jury would laugh at the motorcycle cop and not accuse the fire chief of any wrongdoing. In like manner, the Vatican completely disregarded the context of the archbishops actions, which were actually foreseen even within the code of canon law. (Not that I am a legalist. The "code of canon law" was a grave mistake because it puts the "letter of the law" above the authority constituted by Our Lord Jesus Christ. Pius X should have never authorized its compilation, and Benedict XV its publication. Meanwhile, JP2 was a coward, not willing to explore whether the grievances of "Traditional Catholics" may have merit.)
35:16 It is laughable that any serious scholar could defend Vatican II as being the work of the Holy Ghost or in continuity with Catholic Tradition. Fr Wiltgen in "The Rhine Flows Into the Tiber" aptly chronicles the undeniable antics of certain groups of clerics who gerrymandered the council apparatus to arrive at a predetermined outcome. Moreover, Fr Ratzinger called the council a "counter syllabus" and Cardinal Seunens proclaimed the council to be "The French Revolution in the Church". Truer words were seldom spoken in the 20th century. The antics of the SSPX notwithstanding, Vatican II is utterly indefensible.
36:30 Even though I am no longer a fan of the SSPX, I too would encourage any Catholic to go to the Roman Catechism (The Catechism of the Council of Trent) and adhere absolutely to that, and be askance at anything contradicting its clear definitions.
46:11 The Church has always called upon us to flee the world and to be afraid of its charms. And Our lady of Fatima showed hell to the three children, to impress upon us that it is very real. I do think you two are in danger of tossing out the proverbial baby with the bathwater here. Yes, the SSPX has very real and grave problems. But do not associate the SSPX with the whole of Catholic Tradition, nor minimize the problems with the Conciliar Church. That is exactly what the Satanic Pederasts currently running the Vatican (and the Big Banks, and the Capitols, and the Schools, for starters) want you to do. And for the record, the "diaries" of "St Faustina" are very problematic. The SSPX are not the only ones shutting down critical thinking...
49:33 The "third secret of Fatima" was not the one published by Rome in 2000. The very fertile imagination of whoever wrote that had a few flaws. Without delving into the theological subtleties of the Queen of Angels having a "lighsabre duel" with St Michael the Archangel one needs merely to cite the "bishop in White" praying for the corpses- as opposed to souls- of the dead. This person obviously was steeped in Protestant Eschatology. At any rate, St Sr Lucia- the real one, not the fraud introduced after Pius XII? John XXIII? Paul VI? had the real one murdered.- practically gave the whole secret away in her interview to Fr Augustine Fuentes on Dec 26th, 1957. Catholics would do well to be VERY familiar with that interview. The Third Secret clearly foretells that we will lose the Mass and Sacraments. The Mass and Sacraments and Clerics of the Conciliar Church are neither valid nor do they confer sanctifying grace. Some Catholics are still getting grace under the doctrine of Ecclesia Supplet- "The Church Supplies" but that only holds for the indomitably ignorant, not the willfully ignorant. Meanwhile, the truth about the Conciliar Church is a Big Red Horse Pill that not even the SSPX wants to swallow. They are hopelessly stuck in 1975, and want to turn the clock back to 1955. Meanwhile, at this point, you cannot simultaneously hold that Frantic is Pope and Vatican I was infallible. (For the record, I think that neither is Frantic Pope and that the definition of Vatican I is a tautology- it is circular reasoning, and in reality tells us nothing ontological, thank goodness.)
53:00 You do touch upon a legitimate point. The SSPX schools spend an inordinate amount of time talking about the problems with the New Mass and the Modernism of the Vatican etc and I used to tell some of the priests that they were preaching to the proverbial choir. Also, for the record, the term "conspiracy theories" is Operation Mockingbird lingo that was introduced following the Kennedy Assassination. One would hope you don't mindlessly subscribe to the current "official narratives", which are between dumb and dumber. It was extremely disheartening that the SSPX and other Traditional groups did not immediately denounce the Plandemic of 2020, for example.
54:20 God gave us Commandments but they were not that specific? huh?
1:02:02 Yes, it is tragic that families get divided. But this is not just the attitude nor fault of the SSPX. This is the stance of Traditional Catholicism. Or have you forgotten these words of St John: "If any man come to you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house nor say to him, God speed you." [2 John 1:10]
1:06:52 It is a grave sin to attend the New Mass- a sin of sacrilege. Fr Wathen, who was highly critical of the SSPX, would even more strongly agree with my statement. You are conflating the problems within the SSPX with the grave crisis of apostasy. That is tragic. Moreover, Catholic standards of modesty of dress apply in FSSP chapels too. The SSPX, understandably, see the organizers of the FSSP as sellouts. That is a rather involved dispute, which I will not delve into here. Suffice to say that both the SSPX and the FSSP will be judged by the same God.
1:07:33 It was originally an Italian Bishop who told women it was a sin to wear pants just as it would be a sin for a man to wear a dress- bagpipers notwithstanding.
1:08:05 "The Rosary is a devotional. It's just a prayer." Well, not exactly. Recall that Our Lady of Fatima encouraged us to pray the Rosary every day. But I can do no better than to quote St Sr Lucia: "God is giving two last remedies to the world: the Holy Rosary and devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. And, being the last remedies, that is to say, they are the final ones, means that there will be no others... As for the Holy Rosary, Father, in these last times in which we are living, the Blessed Virgin has given a new efficacy to the praying of the Holy Rosary. This in such a way that there is no problem that cannot be resolved by praying the Rosary, no matter how difficult it is - be it temporal or above all spiritual - in the spiritual life of each of us or the lives of our families, be they our families in the world or Religious Communities, or even in the lives of peoples and nations. I repeat, there is no problem, as difficult as it may be, that we cannot resolve at this time by praying the Holy Rosary. With the Holy Rosary we will save ourselves, sanctify ourselves, console Our Lord and obtain the salvation of many souls." I did not notice the word "pope", "bishop", "priest", or "mass" there. DON'T BE AN IGNORAMUS!
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