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Conversation With A Nazi
The Tragedy of The Greatest Story Never Told Is not what most people think.
The trail here might be hard to follow, but I will start at the beginning, which was a comment to the latest article by Don Jeffries on the JFK Assassination.
Heretic Drummer wrote: "I think Castro was a CIA creation, analogous to Col. Tim Osman a.k.a. Osama Bin Laden. After all, communism was created and financed by Wailing Wall Street Hebraic billionaires in the U.S. (I know, they had some rich WASP sycophants but they were calling the shots.) Further, the OSS was the mother bitch that spawned the CIA post World War Two, and that outfit was laden with Reds and criminals. As Gen. George Patton referred to them, the scum of the earth. The big giveaway was, and is, the large U.S. Navy & Marine base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, called affectionately by U.S. servicemen, 'Gitmo'. It doesn't add up that the vehemently, anti-American communist Fidel Castro would tolerate a U.S. military facility on his home turf, American far superior firepower notwithstanding. Nothing in this world of inversions and delusions is as it seems. Much great info herein, Don, thanks for another fine piece of reality."
I replied, rather flippantly: "You are darn tootin' Fidel Castro was a CIA creation- born and raised in the USA. He got control of Cuba thanks to all the Gold Japan stole from Buddhist Temples during their escapades during WW2 which was secreted in the Philippines to be turned over to the OSS/CIA after the war for their "black ops".
"Fidel's mission was quite simple- turn Cuba into a hellhole so that the lucrative sugar industry could be transferred to the Dominican Republic- which it promptly was after all the sugar magnates with the knowhow and the refining technology promptly relocated there, along with plenty of slaves imported from South America. And meanwhile, those in the know could still enjoy their fine Havana Cigars, which were somehow always available to the upper eschelons of the intelligensia. It takes some doing, but after awhile all the pieces can be put together- but you have to read the most disparagate of sources- all the way from hang-glider enthusiasts to missionary brothers abroad.
"And yes, GITMO was always there to remind Fidel just how long his leash was- or short- depending on how you looked at it. So long as he enjoyed the local prostitutes and did not get his nose into the more lucrative narco- and slave trades from the Jungles of Columbia through the Air Base at Illapango and on to Mena Arkansas, and so long as he did not try to invest in Japanese '57 Bonds, all would be well. He could also play with his Soviet military toys, produced by the Ford Motor Company at the East is West Red Tractor Factory #3 on Sakhalin Island, so long as he pretended to be Mr Bad Guy only 90 Miles off the Coast of Florida.
"And, oh yes, the Cuban Missile Crisis was very entertaining. Had the Sheeple peeing their pants all through the month of October 1962.
"Glad that Big Bad Ass JFK was there to stare down the Evil Ruskies and make the world safe for Dumbocracy.
"I expect to have a few good laughs about that come Judgment Day."
Heretic Drummer was all over my themes:
"Well said, White Wolf. Speaking of the 'Soviet Jew-nion', the world's largest heavy truck manufacturing plant was built for them by Mack Trucks and financed by Chase Manhattan bank in the U.S., those two bastions of capitalism. The fact that such a plant could be readily converted to produce tanks and armored cars for a very potential enemy to kill American troops with, was just brushed aside as being of no importance. Communism, spawned by its mother-bitch capitalism, was the kosher created Straw Man to justify a trillion dollar military with concomitant martial control of the government and society. The line that it was an uprising of the downtrodden proletariat is a children's fairy tale. If it really was an attempt at such, the Ruling Class could have crushed it as easily as squashing a bug."
My reply was where this conversation would take an interesting turn:
"Thanks for the new info. Communism and Capitalism are just two arms of the same beast. Just as Nazi Germany was the best enemy money could manufacture in the 1940's, Stalinist Russia was the best for the 1950's. The very latest incarnation is the Sino-Russian behemoth at the core of the ‘BRICS’, just in time for WW3, another Ziocon Production."
Heretic Drummer replied:
"With all respect, White Wolf, National Socialist Germany was the antithesis to both Jewish Communism and Capitalism as evinced by the fact that the capitalist U.S. locked arms with the communist USSR to crush it. The NS movement created the most robust, healthy, and economically prosperous society for the people there in such record time as to have stunned the world. The oligarchic parasites that rule the planet were determined to destroy it and forever besmirch the name of its founder and driver. While Wall Street's ties to the birth and rise of communism are well documented and established, Antony Sutton in his, 'Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler' miserably failed with specious logic. He just showed standard business and trade agreements between America and Germany, typical of what transpired among all industrial, first world nations. A close perusal of history clearly shows that Hitler's NS movement was grass roots financed by the German people which culminated in his being democratically elected to the German chancellorship by an astonishing margin of close to 90 %. No American president has come remotely close to that. Everything the System hacks and whores write about him and National Socialism is a filthy lie. It was and is the only remedy to breaking the chains of the beast's Talmudic tyranny."
This is where one has to start making careful discernment and distinctions. I proceeded as follows:
"Everything that you have said is absolute 110% truth, Heretic Drummer. The Powers-That-Be took a breathtaking gambit with the Austrian Painter, a gambit that still has people admiring the man 30 years after he died in Patagonia.
"Yes, he did rescue Germany from the clutches of the Banksters, shutting down their porn racket in record time and banishing their votaries to Auschwitz and the four Winds. All of that is absolutely true. And he garnered an army of devotees not only across Eastern Europe, but across the world. Volunteers from no less than 57 countries, including an Irish Brigade and 50,000 seasoned Carlists from the recent "Civil War" in Spain, participated in "Operation Barbarossa"- the ultimate crusade against Communist and Bolshevist Russia.
"But here is the rub. The Tigers and Panzers of Operation Barbarossa should have been rolling down the streets of Moscow by August 15th, 1941 and Russia should have been knocked out of the war, just as it had been in WW1.
"But after three weeks of impeccable execution in June, Operation Barbarossa, which was totally routing the Soviets in scenes of what observers described as "Biblical", suddenly was plagued with a comedy of blunders at every level. Totally inexplicable strategic decisions were made, for example, such as diversions of major forces to try and take the hapless city of Leningrad, and diversions in the south to take the Ukrainian city of Odessa.
"Meanwhile, railroads failed to deliver basic supplies in timely fashion. The Carlists were delayed for two whole days for a lack of bullets, of all things, when all they were facing were the local commisars armed with pistols.
"The major part of the Luftwaffe was still occupied with the nonsensical 'Battle of Britain' when it should have been sweeping what was left of the annoying Soviet Air Force from the skies.
"A major portion of the German army was able to keep advancing in the center only because the local peasant women were the ones giving them food. They were actually ordered to stop advancing until they could be supplied with German rations.
"Three German divisions were marching for two days in the wrong direction.
"The whole month of July saw Operation Barbarossa make proportionally measly gains in the face of practically no opposition. Hell, in Mid-July the Luftwaffe could have practically landed transports outside the gates of Moscow, if they had had a mind to.
"No, you have to understand that the Austrian Painter was a wonderful creation on the part of the Banksters to fool the partisans of Germany, Austria, Czechoslavakia, Poland, Romania, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Hungary, Crimea, Ukraine, Finland, and so on into thinking they had a glorious crusader who would lead them on a holy war against both capitalism and communism, and they followed him into the jaws of hell. But it was all a trap.
"WW2 was choreographed from beginning to end, the balance of power on a knife edge to ensure a maximum of human misery and destruction, the plans which were finalized on Jan 25th, 1938, at a meeting in Belgium.
"And that mission was majestically accomplished. Eastern Europe was completely destroyed in the war, and placed under Stalin's yoke, just as planned.
"And from the grave, the Austrian painter continues to fool his partisans."
I expected some blowback from that Truth Bomb, and I got it:
"Several years ago there was an excellent and well documented article in the Barnes Review by a revisionist, World War Two scholar. In it he delineated things that I had long suspected. The real reason Operation Barbarossa stalled and was ultimately derailed was because of high level traitors and Fifth Columnists within the 3rd Reich and its military hierarchy, many if not all of them Freemasons, who sabotaged the supply lines for the German army fighting the Red hordes in the Soviet Union. The German troops suddenly ran out of food, weapons, ammunition, fuel, medical supplies, and winter weather gear. Simply put, these swine made sure the supplies and equipment never got to where they were supposed to go. This is what devastated the Germans and prevented victory. That and the billions of dollars worth of all of those aforementioned supplies provided gratis by the Jew-nited States to its monster, criminal partner, the Soviet Jew-nion. When you are surrounded and attacked by the majority of the world's nations from without, while you are betrayed and derailed from within, all at the behest and direction of international Jewry, it makes victory nigh impossible, no matter how good you are nor excellent your men."
Once more I treaded with caution, but went deeper down the rabbit hole.
"That is an interesting theory, but it fails at several levels.
"#1. I have never found any evidence of Nazi reprisals against all those evil "Freemasons, Jews, Fifth Columnists, and Commies" that sabotaged Operation Barbarossa. And surely the high command would have found out via a bevy of complaints from the lower level. Yes, I am sure there were some turncoats, malcontents, and etc. But their numbers were not such that they could have had a significant, enduring impact on Barbarossa.
"#2. I am talking about the campaigns in July and early August. If a plethora of turncoats existed, as the Barnes Review scholar postulates, why would they not have started their chicanery from the getgo, and actually prevented a large scale invasion in the first place, giving the Soviet Air force especially the chance to recover from the initial surprise?
"#3. You would think that the turncoats and traitors would have been discovered and weeded out as the campaign continued, but things actually got worse as Barbarossa proceeded and, yes, by October the shenanigans were so obvious and comical that the usual suspects had to be invoked. But that was just running interference for the High Command.
"#4. And, yes, as you pointed out, the most famous problem was that the Germans had no winter gear nor winter maintainence for their equipment as they rolled onto the outskirts of Moscow on Dec 7th, 1941, and the offensive planned by Zuckov began to take shape. And of course the Russian T-34 was specifically designed in 1939 for use against the Tiger and Panzer tanks that had not even been in the field yet. And that in the dead of winter. Imagine that. The German factories must have been absolutely crawling with spies in every corner... along with prophets who knew how the coming campaign would unfold.
"#5. This absolutely fails to explain Stalingrad, which was the crown jewel of the deception, and the death of Barbarossa. Stalingrad was absolutely, catastrophically stupid at every level, and the only excuse is the German High Command."
The plot thickens:
"It is not a theory. The National Socialists moved against Freemasons and other enemy secret society adepts whenever they found them or could smoke them out but it was not easy. They knew they were targeted and did the best to conceal themselves, like communist infiltrators everywhere. The numbers are not nearly as relevant as are the positions of power and influence in Command. They did not sabotage from the get-go because it would have been much more obvious as the supply lines were much shorter and the troops went in well equipped. Further, the deadly Russian winter had not yet set in so their requirements were not nearly so severe. They also wanted the troops as deep in as Russia as possible to insure their chances of escape and survival were nil. I wish I had access to that excellent article to give you details and verification but I read it years ago and it is packed away somewhere as I am a voracious reader with tons of material. The German high command was infiltrated. The Talmudic Cryptocracy is not going to waste time, effort, and energy working to place agents in the lower enlisted or commissioned officer ranks."
"We are talking a very, very complex subject here, and we are at the very bottom of the proverbial rabbit hole, where the flak gets intense and the minefield gets thicker. So I will try and navigate very carefully.
"First off, I heartily agree that, on the whole, Nazi Germany was vastly more moral, civilized and cultured than the decadent West of the 1920's (America in particular greatly "sobered up" with the onset of the Great Depression and people started frequenting the churches more, but I don't want to get off topic.) Yes, Nazi Germany had many, many admirable individuals, and they populated all echelons of that society. And yes, many, many putrid lies have been told about the Nazis- everything from them using attack dogs to intimidate hapless victims to gang-raping Jews and other fairy tales, all intent on demonizing these proud people. I am a great fan of "The Greatest Story Never Told" and admire the producer's zeal. Nazi Germany produced many gallant men that I admire, men such as Erwin Rommel and Admiral Karl Donitz, who were true military giants and not cardboard cutouts like Chester Nimitz and Dwight Eisenhower. The gallantry, courage, civility, and overall demeanor of the German soldier was unequaled by any other army in the world, and Germany was the only country that abided by the Geneva Convention. Nearly Every German prisoner of war survived to be returned (or deported, as in the case of "operation keelhaul") to their mother country
"And yes, the Nazis shut down the Freemasonic lodges and banned membership shortly after the Enabling Laws were passed. That is a documentable part of the historical record of which I am very well aware. I certainly do not agree with the quasi-liturgical rallies of the Nazi Party, nor with Hitler's "ecumenism", but it was superior to the American form and, so long as pastors did not incite violence against gov't institutions they were left unmolested. I am aplomb that Pius XI could issue "Mit Brennender Sorge" to be read by all the Catholic pastors in Greater Germany on Palm Sunday 1937 without simultaniously condemning the liberal regime in France and those in Mexico and Argentina, where the vast majority of the population was nominally Catholic (unlike mostly Protestant Germany) and where Calles and Justo, respectively, were Masonic "Enlightened Despots''. And yet the Nazis did not react violently against the Church, although they did imprison some liberal priests- actions which would provide much grist for the propaganda mills.
"All of that having been said, there is no doubt that Hitler himself and some of his top staff, such as Herman Goring, were Masonic stooges, or, at best, useful idiots. My opinion is that Hitler, megalomaniac that he was, took the Jewish money and perhaps thought he could turn the tables against them, but failed to realize all the research they were conducting was being dutifully reported overseas. Nazi Germany was one vast Bankster military research and development corporation, and the projects worked on were immense- and an immense waste of resources. Everything from tanks practically the size of Navy Destroyers to huge flying wings 100 yards tip-to-tip to jet rockets to jet planes to atomic energy to synthetic rubber were built and tested at vast facilities that were never bombed by the Allies, even as they were leveling cities, and after the war these projects, to a man, were transferred mostly to the United States, the most famous being Wernher von Braun and his whole cadre of rocket scientists which would become the backbone of NASA. Moreover there is abundant evidence these teams were in communication with American counterparts even at the height of the war, through mediaries from Ford Motor Company and some front Trusts set up by Prescott Bush.
"Moreover, I have no evidence the Nazis ever shut down any of the Rothchild estates that were overrun during the war, or confiscated assets or documents, or chronicled the horrendous activities that must have been occurring there. I have never even heard rumors of the existence of such files. Surely, surely some zealot would have been able to save such documents from even the most thorough Allied "scrubbing" operation, and got them into the hands of the researchers in Franco's Spain (I cannot remember the name of the famous group offhand.) Those documents, of course, would have been most invaluable to researchers. Nor did any evidence of malfeasance by the big banker cartels ever emerge from Nazi Germany, as it had from Franco's Spain, which would be puzzling if the Nazis were truly anti-Freemasonic as they had vastly greater intelligence resources at their fingertips than either Franco or Salazar of Portugal.
"So, just like Pius Xth alleged expurgation of the Masons and liberals from the ranks of the clergy, the actions of the Germans apparently were largely symbolic and theatrical. But there was no substantial change.
"Moreover, many of Hitler's actions were inexplicable. The first was the nonsensical "Battle of Britain" which served to escalate the horrors of the war after the Armistice with France. Granted that the bombing of London was retaliation for the British bombing of German cities, and even schoolyards with children, Hitler's response was absolutely horrible for international public relations, and caused a burgeoning peace movement in the British isles to stagnate. There was of course the famous, and valiant, attempt by Rudolf Hess to fly into Scotland and from there contact the English monarchy. which failed when he was captured and imprisoned.
"Another was the half-hearted submarine blockade. The German U-Boat Wolfpacks roamed broad stretches of the Atlantic as opposed to the very successful conduct during WW1 of operating chokepoints in close proximity to British ports which succeeded in stopping almost all importation into the country and exporting of arms. Now some have argued that the shipping lanes were vastly more sophisticated in 1940 but still... the strategy was not even tried by the Kreigsmarine. Instead, too much effort was wasted in building stupid super-battleships like Bismarck, Tirpitz, Scharnhorst, and etc that really had no purpose since the chances of Germany establishing a Blue Water navy were nil and they did not even need one anyway.
"Add to that the pointless operations in North Africa which were part of Mussolini's dream of making the Mediterranean an Italian Lake. Some speak of oil but Hitler had access to all the oil he needed from the Caucasus, and it is incredible that the German oil fields of Ploiești Romania were never developed to full capacity.
"Instead, if one follows the course of the war, one can easily see that the campaigns of both Stalin and Hitler were designed for one purpose, and one purpose only- a maximum destruction of resources, property and a maximum cost of lives, both military and civilian. It is estimated that upwards of 60 million people perished in the area between Berlin and Moscow bounded only on west-east lines from 1941 to 1945.
"From the fall of Stalingrad to the stupid tank battles of Kursk to the desperate battle for Crimea to the overstretched line of 1944 to the final pointless slaughters by Stalin even as he was still conducting the war, the only purpose was one vast Satanic holocaust- the offering to the Prince of Darkness of millions upon millions of innocents.
"And then. After Hitler had accomplished the mission of reducing Germany to a pile of rubble, he was spirited out of the country to a nice retirement in Patagonia, where I believe he died in 1975.
"So thoroughly had the Banksters done the job that a whole generation of Europeans forgot their roots and became enmeshed in a consumerist workers paradise where they imbibed idle pursuits and pleasures, and became fodder for corrupting masonic constructs."
Heretic Drummer replied:
"You say many perceptive things that I totally agree with. However, Adolph Hitler was nobody's stooge or useful idiot. He would never be complicit in the destruction, murder, and rape of his people nor deliberately acquiesce in the slaughter of his military and he was far too brilliant to be manipulated into such. He wanted peace above all else. Against the admonishments of his generals he let the British army flee to safety at Dunkirk when he could have annihilated them. When Hitler was a poverty stricken artist as a young man in Vienna, he once caught a mouse in his flat and instead of killing it, he took it outside and set it free on the grass. Is this a man who would wantonly order the torture and murder of millions? I don't think so. Leon Degrelle, the Walloonian Waffen SS general, who personally led and survived over 75 combat assaults against the superior numbers of the Red Army on the Eastern Front, one of the greatest and noblest Aryan warriors of this time cycle, was like a son to Hitler. He said of him, "He's been accused of every kind of cruelty, but cruelty was not in his nature." Recall Hitler was twice the recipient of the Iron Cross in World War One, Germany's highest combat decoration. Roughly equivalent to the U.S. Congressional Medal of Honor, most men are awarded this posthumously being killed in the act of earning it. The people close to Hitler were absolutely stunned by his genius. He could hold his own in a conversation with any PhD or scholar on any topic from science, to technology, to, art, literature, literally anything of import and culture. The little nothings who snipe at him and besmirch his memory with kosher mendacities are not worthy of licking his boots. The USSR was poised to attack and overrun Europe. Hitler had to strike. Other than the fifth column disruptions and betra yals, any blunders made in the war were by his generals without his approval or knowledge. It was impossible for him to be on top of and control everything with the Jew incited world against him and traitors like maggots sabotaging him, his achievements, and the Reich from within. The incredible carnage of World War Two notwithstanding, it was just a skirmish compared to what is coming with Ragnarok. This war was commenced in the higher realms aeons ago and has descended into the realm of base matter on earth, the battleground for the final combat."
As you can see, the conversation has taken a turn into the theological. And when I replied I had not really noticed the terminology used at the very end. I was concentrating on Hitler himself:
"I agree with everything you say. The Austrian Painter is a magnificent enigma, and he still has many, many fans. And of course, I agree that the "Final Solution" is complete nonsense, and such things as "The Diary of Anne Frank" complete fictional bunk.
"To this day, I do not know whether Hitler was a paid insider, a useful idiot, or failed in an attempt to turn the Conspirators' plans against them. I think a bevy of facts can be marshalled to argue all three theses.
"But that is irrelevant. You admit that the German High Command was highly infiltrated. That is the core of the matter. You admit that Operation Barbarossa was compromised. That is all that really matters.
"My thesis is that WW2 was choreographed from beginning to end, and that nobody ever departed significantly from the script.
"I am not attacking your view of Hitler. Roosevelt, Stalin, Churchill and even Mussolini were much more notorious than Hitler, and also much more effective at lying. Nobody told more truth during the war than Hitler, and few people in human history have been more distorted than he was.
"I can wait until Judgment Day to learn the truth. In the meantime, while I cannot have good hope that Hitler is with the Blessed, I certainly would not count him among the damned."
The reply was short and absolutely in the realm of the mythical:
"Adolph Hitler, the man against and above time, is the Ultimate Avatar and will lead the Last Battalion to victory as Kalki the Avenger over the forces of the Demiurge at the culmination of this Kali Yuga. Best Regards to you, White Wolf."
And so I gave the last word:
"Interesting reply. Absolutely amazing how the Austrian Painter, even from the grave, leads so many astray.
"A long time ago, a man similar to Adolf Hitler existed. His name was Judas Iscariot. Like Hitler, Judas loved adventure. He loved the High Life. And he wanted to be famous and remembered for all time. And, tragically, like Hitler, he had the same end. When Our Lord Jesus Christ gave His famous Sermon on the Mount, Judas became disillusioned. Our Lord made all these strange comments about His Flesh being Food, and His Blood being Drink, that Judas could not fathom. The other Apostles could not fathom those words either, but St Peter replied, when Our Lord asked if they, like so many others that day who had left him, would also leave: "Lord, to Whom shall we go? You have the Words of Eternal Life." Had Judas been honest, he would have left too, and gone back to his old employment. But Judas made a very tragic choice. He decided to just sit on the proverbial fence, and not commit himself to either side. He would just hang on for the ride, perhaps curious, perhaps hoping against hope this might have a good outcome and Our Lord Jesus Christ would lead a rebellion against Rome and establish His Throne in Jerusalem like David of old.
"Our Lord, of course, preached a Kingdom, but a Spiritual Kingdom, with a definite dominion over the things of this world but looking beyond this world to a day when God would Restore All Things as they had been before the Fall of Adam. But Judas did not, or did not want to, see this. Rather, his disillusionment only increased until it reached a summit with the raising of Lazarus from the dead, when the Chief Priest and the Sanhedrin began openly plotting to kill Jesus, and banished His followers from their midst and worship in the Temple.
"Judas decided then and there that this Jesus fellow, like some of the revolutionaries before Him, had his days numbered, and the best course of action was to garner some profit and then walk away, perhaps get some property, and eek out a life of comparative leisure. And so, as we know, he sold Jesus for thirty pieces of silver. But then his eyes were opened and he realized what he had done. But he also recalled Our Lord saying: "Woe to the man who betrays me; better for that man had he never been born." In total despair, he went back to the Jewish Priests and flung the money back into the Temple, protesting that he had betrayed Innocent Blood. Tragically, he had gone to the wrong people. Certainly if he had gone to Our Lord at the Foot of the Cross, or to His Mother, Our Lady, he would have found plentious forgiveness. But no, Judas took the cowards way out of his misery, and hanged himself.
"As for Adolf Hitler, his end has two options. One is the Official Narrative that he poisoned his wife and his dog, then blew his brains out. That is the end of a coward. Like his regiment that stood before the gates of Moscow and died to the last man rather than retreat, Hitler, when he realized all was lost, should have stationed himself and his men at the windows of the headquarters building, passed the ammunition, and fought to the last bullet and the last knife and died like a man, and commit his soul and his remains to Almighty God, just like the heroic defenders of the Alcazar during the Spanish "Civil War" some ten years before.
"Yes, I agree with Hitler that there is no surrender to the Revolution. The Revolution wants us all dead and buried in Hell. Ever since the shameful "Concordat" Pius VII made with Napoleon Boneapart, the modus operandi for Christendom has been to seek a modus vivendi with the Revolution. But the Revolution, unlike the cowards of Christendom, knows its Master and its end, which, if possible, would be the complete annihilation of even the memory of the Redeemer, and the Deposit of Faith. And the Defenders of Christendom tragically aligned with Hitler, because they had a common enemy- the Descendants of the Crucifiers of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
"But Hitler, whether Insider, Useful Idiot, or, like Judas, just going along for the ride, ultimately betrayed everything.
"The other option for Hitler is that he fled to Argentina. (I think more evidence exists for this option. I think Hitler was on the last set of aircraft that took off from Berlin and were escorted to asylum in Franco's Spain, where they boarded submarines that took them to Argentina.) While that option was also cowardly, leaving the defenders of the Reich high and dry, so to speak, at least one can entertain hope that Hitler repented, did penance, and died a holy death in seclusion. Then perhaps he will return with Our Lord Jesus Christ when He comes again to rout the Antichrist and his forces arrayed in Jerusalem.
"Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us. You are our only hope!"